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Post  Kousuke on Sun May 05, 2013 7:05 pm

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I am also going for a no vote. I don't care about his side of the story, he reports his own guildies and that is very low in my opinion.
Every story has 2 sides ^^
He may have a reason for doing what was done.

Kousuke wrote:I don't care about his side of the story

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Re: RogueBlood's App

Post  MikaMisuky on Sun May 05, 2013 8:18 pm

I'm not going to judge yet, only after the applicant has given us some answers.

But I have to say this; most of the time when 1 person votes 'No' the rest just follows directly with a 'No' aswell. Not sure if that's an individual opinion or just no because of some other guildie said no. In either cases, I'm not going to discuss that any further but I hope it's not true (the last case).

Good luck with the application, hope you respond soon again. Smile1

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Post  Guest on Sun May 05, 2013 8:26 pm

Kousuke wrote:
Depressions wrote:
Kousuke wrote:
I am also going for a no vote. I don't care about his side of the story, he reports his own guildies and that is very low in my opinion.
Every story has 2 sides ^^
He may have a reason for doing what was done.

Kousuke wrote:I don't care about his side of the story
You'll go very very far.

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Re: RogueBlood's App

Post  Kousuke on Sun May 05, 2013 8:29 pm

Depressions wrote:
Kousuke wrote:
Depressions wrote:
Kousuke wrote:
I am also going for a no vote. I don't care about his side of the story, he reports his own guildies and that is very low in my opinion.
Every story has 2 sides ^^
He may have a reason for doing what was done.

Kousuke wrote:I don't care about his side of the story
You'll go very very far.

Yes I will. I don't understand why this guy is even taken into considaration? They screens that Imre has shown prove enough. His side of the story is already in the screens.

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Post  Elyne on Sun May 05, 2013 8:36 pm

Enough, please remember that this is one of the first impressions outside people get of the guild.

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Post  HoliArcher on Sun May 05, 2013 8:43 pm

Elyne wrote:Enough, please remember that this is one of the first impressions outside people get of the guild.

Mhmm listen to Amy now Smile4

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Re: RogueBlood's App

Post  Kousuke on Sun May 05, 2013 8:44 pm

HoliArcher wrote:
Elyne wrote:Enough, please remember that this is one of the first impressions outside people get of the guild.

Mhmm listen to Amy now Smile4

Alright alright Smile2 Smile2

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Re: RogueBlood's App

Post  Guest on Mon May 06, 2013 12:21 pm

Hello again everyone. Thank you for the welcomes. Sorry for the delayed response. I was on my way to a concert when I posted on my Iphone, and I spent the rest of Saturday and Sunday with my girlfriend and a couple of other friends. But anyway, moving onto the replies...

Smile3The Big Issue

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I'll start off with the major concern. Yes, the incident that Vegimre states is true. However I just want to clarify something first...

Vegimre wrote:The leader of Exiles made a bad decision by joining forces with Dalmasca in a union.

I guess I can't really blame them because nobody really knew how bad that guild was.

They basically stabbed us in the back and offended our guild.

I wasn't able to convince the leaders of Exiles that Dalmasca were bad company and should be disposed.
I can understand your frustration that you have against me. But even though my ties with Dalmasca are now gone, you shouldn't blame the entire guild for the actions that I alone caused. As you said yourself in your response, there were good people in that guild.

I believe this game, like other online games should be played fairly, and it isn't fair when some people make the decision to use hacks or scam their way through it. I despise that type of person. And I didn't particularly like the idea that some people where trying to buy/sell NX either, as again, I saw it to be an unfair advantage some people had. I send reports/tickets to NEXON because I really enjoy this game, and I for one don't want it going downhill as a result to the actions of these certain people.

I can understand the argument, where there are still areas of Europe that are unable to get NX for themselves, which I agree is very unfortunate, and doesn't bode well for fair play in the game (but I believe that if this issue is made aware to the company, at the very least they would know about it, and try to find a solution).

However, since it wasn't too long ago that I was informed by one of our GMs, via email, that the buying and selling of NX had then become acceptable conduct within the game. I still say it's a little risky, but since then, if anyone does buy/sell NX I just keep my mouth shut and look the other way.


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Answers all my feelings towards this app. Insta no.
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Why? Because, as Imre already said, likes to check on all people. We're not living in the 50's now. And watching your back like RogueBlood does, isn't the same as in the movies where people actually help you out. Nope, instead he tries to find all the things you do and when he succeeds, he reports you to Nexon. Go ask Selina, Batos and idk how many more people from Exiles: all the same things. He got kicked out of Dalmasca because well, he takes this game to a whole new level. It can be just me, but I think he's far to controlling.
Firstly, I think you'll find that I have better things to do in the game than sit there monitoring every person in the guild for any slip-ups.

Secondly, I don't know, nor do I really care who keeps saying that I was KICKED from Dalmasca. But I can tell you that I chose to leave the guild, as I just wasn't happy there any more. (Hopefully that answers part of your question too, Zlame/NotVeryOP)

I think I will wrap-up this section by saying, if there is ever a case where I find out that someone is hacking or scamming, I will make it aware to the guild/union leaders and/or Jrs before further actions are taken. After the PM conversation (posted by Vegimre) and the debates in the former guild/union chats, I have adapted my way of dealing with these situations.

Moving onto the other responses now...

Smile7Zlame/NotVeryOP's Response:

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To go into more details for why I left Dalmasca. I don't know what it's like now, but at the time, the guild started to die down and become very quiet. In other words, we started to see a long list of inactive IGNs in our guild for quite some time. I personally found it boring, both socially and actively in the game. As a result, I thought I may as well be guildless if it continues this way.

I was invited into a guild for a while, but unfortunately that guild is now dispanded. While I was leveling Rogue in Supreme, I did a number of PQs with someone from another well-known guild, and I had been tempted to apply for recruitment with that guild, for Rogue in Kradia. However... I don't know... it just didn't appeal strong enough to me. Other than that, I did check out other guild recruitment threads on the forums, but again, they weren't really appealing strong enough.

Smile17xSHINE's Response:

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Duped items, well as I mentioned earlier, I believe in fair play in the game. So I wouldn't want anything to do with them, if I can help it. I don't really go into the FM that much, but when I do, it can be easy to spot items that are suspect to duping, i.e. the face masks you see smegad with the max stats, or those maple claws with like, 100 enhancements added. Then there are those really rare items that are sold in high quantities at lower prices.

I can't say that I agree with people using these items. And it's hard, because you can't always be 100% certain that the items they use are legit of duped. I guess it's down to whether or not that person is willing to risk their account for a questionable item.

Also, thank you for the FM invite. I will try to stop by later today.

Smile5DoubleDose's Response

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Lol, truthfully no, not everybody. But I find that a lot of people here are quite intelligent.

Smile2Nyan Cat's Response:

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Yes, that's them. There are only so few, because I was also doing my studies at uni too.

Smile1BlazeHermit's Response:

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You are one of the IGNs I recognised here. And as requested, here are the IGNs of the characters in my arsenal, listed in the order they were created, and all levels are listed as they are as of the date of this post. (Be warned, there is a very noticeable pattern here):

  • RogueBlood Night Lord Lvl 19x (Kradia) (Main)

  • RogueBlood Hermit Lvl 12x (Supreme)

  • DryBlood Striker Lvl 120

  • RawBlood Aran Lvl 12x

  • CoreBlood Evan Lvl 13x

  • FearBlood Dual Blade Lvl 14x

  • GearBlood Mechanic Lvl 13x

  • BuccO Cannon Shooter Lvl 12x (Mule)

  • MystBlood Mercedes Lvl 13x

  • DashBlood Demon Slayer Lvl 14x

  • ScarBlood Kaiser Lvl 12x

  • RayneBlood Phantom Lvl 14x

  • EnderBlood Luminous Lvl 12x

Thank you for your patience. Again, if there's anything else you would like to know, leave a reply and I will get back to you.

Happy Mapling Meso5


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Re: RogueBlood's App

Post  Gloryfall on Mon May 06, 2013 12:29 pm

My apologies. I shouldn't have gone that far.
Maybe you did find out that monitoring everything isn't life and as I can see in your comments towards others, you seem cheerful, open-minded, theoratically & practically smart and even funny! I guess I should give you the opportunity to have a chance in our guild.

Why? Well, maybe we won't get a long well but hey, time heals all wounds.
And you have never hacked, scammed someone or behaved badly towards others in-game (despite the fact that you did things in the past that .. well those are done now)

I still have my doubts though, but I'll let others decide.

PS: It's going in the positive direction Smile13

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Post  Kousuke on Mon May 06, 2013 1:17 pm

I am still voting no

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Post  Destabilise on Mon May 06, 2013 2:43 pm

Seeing people feel the need to repeat their vote(s), I'll repeat my yes vote. Just as an act of counteraction. I think he has well enough explained his side of the story and has stated that he won't take such drastic measures immediately again.

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Post  Gloryfall on Mon May 06, 2013 3:12 pm

Destabilise wrote:Seeing people feel the need to repeat their vote(s), I'll repeat my yes vote. Just as an act of counteraction. I think he has well enough explained his side of the story and has stated that he won't take such drastic measures immediately again.

This.

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Post  Take on Mon May 06, 2013 3:22 pm

I'm kind of torn. On the one hand there are reasons to vote Yes and on the other, to vote No.

First of all, he tried to reply to everyone in a calm manner which kind of surprises me because I'm also someone who was/still is active on the Nexon forums for years and so I have a rough idea how upset you can get when something doesn't get fixed as fast as you expect it to. Your attitude was often negative and aggressive towards forum moderators like kazz or Samantha who aren't official Nexon workers but seem to have to take the blame.
Not going to comment on Dalmasca since this isn't the point here.

Granted, you are an old and legit player but it's the attitude that puts me off. Of course I haven't seen your other sides and don't know how much you have changed, that's why I didn't go for an instant No.

Coming back to the issue with Exiles and reporting other people: I also think that taking advantage of hackers, dupes, glitches or bugs should be punished because there are people who want to play it fairly and the more people start to cross the line, the more we're drifting into the direction of closing the game or destroying it even more than now. There's a difference between those exploits though. If someone hacks or dupes, report him right away. If someone takes advantage of something, warn him or the guild leader once and if he refuses to comply, go ahead. There are situations where a person might not know if he's doing something wrong but that also depends on the type of person.

Last but not least, I'm aware that Vegimre joined HB to get away from that incident and the issues between those guilds so I don't feel quite comfortable saying Yes when I know that he's got issues with you. What you can do is to try and talk to everyone who wants to deny your application or just wait for Vicky's decision.

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Post  HoliArcher on Mon May 06, 2013 3:32 pm

So much drama.... pls stahp Smile23

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Post  MikaMisuky on Mon May 06, 2013 4:14 pm

Yes

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Re: RogueBlood's App

Post  Stephy on Mon May 06, 2013 6:18 pm

First of all,
i gotta say his answers are really mature, after some really unmature reactions of us (sorry guys, but it's true).
On the other hand, i don't see him being rude or anything in the screenshots,
wich means he still is mature.
Ofcourse he should have talked with the guildleader of Exiles,
and ofcourse u don't report your 'family' since i call it that way.
I just hope that u won't report guildies from us if they should make a mistake,
since we're a close family and we don't gonna report people but help them.

Anyways, i hope that u can have a talk with imre and clean this issues.
I'm gonna say Yes.

+i remember u long time ago, interviewing me for 'Saga' for a guildlist-interview or something? Smile5


Edit: I talked with kous a very long time, and i can't vote yes anymore because of our talk. so sorry but i'm going to vote no.


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Re: RogueBlood's App

Post  Vegimre on Mon May 06, 2013 7:17 pm

I left Exiles, because I didn't want to be in one union with Dalmasca and I knew very well that I could find home in HellBound, the feeling I also sought in Exiles. Simple as that.

We do not need to talk. I don't have a grudge with Rogue. I just don't agree with his ways and style... along with the combined leadership they represented with Basil. We are simply different.

Hell, maybe if we'd get to know his name and age, I might just give him a yes for trial. Otherwise he'll just remain some shady person to me... not quite fit to be in a family like HellBound, where socialising goes a little bit beyond exchanging names. I also know that Rogue is probably smart enough to have login information completely unrelated to his name or age by far.
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Post  cubis on Mon May 06, 2013 7:46 pm

Heyyy Rogue, I remember you mister f3
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Post  Guest on Mon May 06, 2013 9:06 pm

I've got quite an ambiguous perspective towards making a decision on your app. I've got both the interests of current union members and your application in mind. Some may say that current guild members outweigh applicants by tons in terms of importance, however I still do believe you deserve somewhat of a chance on at least getting accepted for a trial or just telling your side of the story in fact.

Just a question to help me and potentially some other members with coming to a final decision (unless anything more should arise) , you mentioned wanting to get back into the "guildie spirit". I know you may have touched on it a little but would you mind going more into what that term actually means to you.
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Post  Guest on Mon May 06, 2013 9:35 pm

No from me

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Post  Guest on Mon May 06, 2013 10:49 pm

Smile11Depressions' Response:

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Fair enough, playing alone is okay for some. The only concerns are how well you are doing, focusing only on your goals, and being able to do things when you want.

Whereas, if people come and work together as a team, everybody benefits. You dedicate yourself, being there for each other, and doing your best with your individual strengths, which all in all helps to build a strong foundation as a guild. Of course there's also the social aspect of being in a guild, which is good for moral support, or even if you just want someone to talk to. In general, it's simply much more fun and exciting when you get to be part of a group. And I personally feel good if I can be there for someone who needs the help.


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Post  BlazeHermit on Mon May 06, 2013 10:51 pm

Thanks for replying to my question, you have quite a collection of characters xD

As for the massive issue, i can't really get my head around it and it doesnt really concern me.

Therefore, I see no reason personally for me to say no.
It's a yes from me Very Happy

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Post  Guest on Wed May 08, 2013 10:26 am

Alongs if Vegimre is ok with it, a trail wouldnt hurt Smile15


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Post  HoliArcher on Wed May 08, 2013 10:36 am

DoubleDose wrote:Alongs if Vegimre is ok with it, a trail wouldnt hurt Smile15


your vote is invaild, you're a trial yourself.

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Post  Guest on Wed May 08, 2013 11:31 am

HoliArcher wrote:
DoubleDose wrote:Alongs if Vegimre is ok with it, a trail wouldnt hurt Smile15


your vote is invaild, you're a trial yourself.

apologise, just sharing my opinion Smile9

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